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	<title>Comments on: Dear PHP and CakePHP</title>
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	<description>Toby Hede's Blog on Ruby, Rails, Facebook Development, User Experience and Stuff</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://info-architects.net/2008/01/11/dear-php-and-cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say it is PHPs fault isn't really fair as it wasn't designed as an object language to start with. Pick the right tool for the job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say it is PHPs fault isn&#8217;t really fair as it wasn&#8217;t designed as an object language to start with. Pick the right tool for the job.</p>
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		<title>By: Top Secret Project &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CodeIgniter: I Don&#8217;t Hate It</title>
		<link>http://info-architects.net/2008/01/11/dear-php-and-cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Top Secret Project &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CodeIgniter: I Don&#8217;t Hate It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as already indicated in several previous nuanced discussions, I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Toby Hede</title>
		<link>http://info-architects.net/2008/01/11/dear-php-and-cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Toby Hede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mostly I just think that it is PHP's fault. It lacks any real dynamic capability. So rather than returning Model objects from Queries, you get nested hashes of arrays of hashes. The whole value of OO in your data layer is instantly lost in one foul swoop.

Not to mention the continued insanity of the PHP libraries. Trapped so deeply in the C world that the rest of us left behind some time in 1995. Try working out what hell strpos returns. Or is it str_pos? Or real_str_pos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mostly I just think that it is PHP&#8217;s fault. It lacks any real dynamic capability. So rather than returning Model objects from Queries, you get nested hashes of arrays of hashes. The whole value of OO in your data layer is instantly lost in one foul swoop.</p>
<p>Not to mention the continued insanity of the PHP libraries. Trapped so deeply in the C world that the rest of us left behind some time in 1995. Try working out what hell strpos returns. Or is it str_pos? Or real_str_pos?</p>
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		<title>By: benajnim</title>
		<link>http://info-architects.net/2008/01/11/dear-php-and-cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>benajnim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've read a lot of programmers' rants with various frameworks, include Cake (that the ramp-up time is higher than other PHP frameworks).  Any specific reason for your hatred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot of programmers&#8217; rants with various frameworks, include Cake (that the ramp-up time is higher than other PHP frameworks).  Any specific reason for your hatred?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Allen</title>
		<link>http://info-architects.net/2008/01/11/dear-php-and-cakephp/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE CAKE IS A LIE!</description>
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